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Offline EmmaS

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Diet Sodas.....
« on: August 20, 2008, 08:31:46 PM »
Hi Guys,

This might seem like a silly question but lately when talking to friends and family about nutrition a lot of people have questions on sugar free substitutes like Splenda and aspartame.  While I back up my reasons to avoid these chemicals by stating that we really have no knowledge as to what the combinations of these chemicals and others in our air or food will do in our body, as well as noting the study that concluded that they really do cause cancer in most rats, I still get blank stares.  The problem as I see it is that compared to the amount of chemicals we are exposed to on a regular basis most people trying to loose weight are still hyper focused on the fact that these sweeteners don't have any caloric content, and seem to be unfazed by the large potentially harmful chemical content. 


Then a few weeks ago my teacher touched upon the issue that when our body ingests any sweet substance it immediatly goes out of fat burning mode, calories or no calories.....However I no longer have that teacher and was wondering if anyone else might understand this theory better than I do?  Or for that matter have a better explantation that might hit home for people who clearly want a reason to avoid this sugar substitute but seem unfazed by a simple dose of chemicals.  Any extra tips would be greatly appreciated. 

Thanks!  Em

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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2008, 11:44:33 PM »
Interesting question. I don't know the exact answer, but I recall one on of the early lecture CDs that Ed talked about how when we ingest sugar which is stripped of its natural vitamins and minerals, our body goes looking to other organs to pull those vitamins and minerals because they are necessary to process the sugar. So it seems logical that if we have the same reaction to sugar subs, our body is already working over time and in conservation and re-allocation mode and can't afford to burn fat.

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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 06:31:04 AM »
Hi Emma,

Sounds like you're dealing with people who just don't really want to hear anything that might make them need to change their bad habits. When I have friends like this, I just leave them alone. But when it's clients, or when I'm giving talks, I figure I need to make a big impression in a short amount of time, so I hit 'em where it hurts--the weight issue.

What follows is a newspaper article I wrote awhile ago. But there's something that's not in there that I'm just now pondering and haven't researched. Sucralose is a sugar molecule that's been altered by the addition of 3 atoms of chlorine. Chlorine is in the halogen family, along with flouride, bromine (in some fungicides/pesticides) and iodine. Iodine is necessary for good thyroid function, and all halogens compete for the same receptors. Load the body up with the other ones and you're possibly looking at lowered thyroid function due to inadequate iodine levels. Just a thought---a scary one.

Here's the article:

Diabetes and Sugar Substitutes: Is There a Connection?

Recent research studies, and much clinical and anecdotal evidence, suggest sugar substitutes—including aspartame and Splenda™—are contributing to weight gain and diabetes. This is in addition to the many other side effects connected with them.
The most widely used sweetener in diet sodas, aspartame also has approximately 92 side effects attributed to it, some of which closely resemble the symptoms of insulin reactions. Internist and endocrinologist, H. J. Roberts, M.D., has spent many years documenting his diabetic and hypoglycemic patients’ reactions to aspartame and has written two books containing their stories. His findings include:

“the loss of diabetic control, the intensification of hypoglycemia…that proved to be aspartame reactions, and the precipitation, aggravation or simulation of diabetic complications…while using these products”…and “[d]ramatic improvement of such features after avoiding aspartame, AND the prompt predictable recurrence of these problems when the patient resumed aspartame products…”.

An article in Technology Review suggested that aspartame may stimulate appetite and carbohydrate cravings. This may be due to the fact that it causes the brain to cease its production of serotonin, the neurotransmitter that rises in response to significant carbohydrate ingestion, creating post-meal relaxation. Without this serotonin reaction it is possible that the feeling of satiation will never occur, making overeating much more likely. Interestingly, it is pretty well known that aspartame promotes weight gain, a fact that is even acknowledged by the American Cancer Society.

Sucralose, as the advertising says, is made from sugar, but it is actually an artificial sweetener, molecularly more similar to a pesticide than to something you’d want to eat. Splenda™, though, is not sucralose, which is 320-1000 times sweeter than sugar. This concentration of sweetness means that measuring out a portion becomes difficult due to its nearly microscopic size. So a product was created that includes filler material to increase the volume of a serving size to proportions similar to those of table sugar. Splenda Granular™ and Splenda Packets™ both contain fillers: maltodextrin and dextrose. These are both sugars and make up 99% of these products. In an interesting legal loophole, if a product contains less than a one gram amount per serving, the manufacturer is allowed to claim zero calories. A serving of one of these sucralose products actually contains four calories per serving, but consumers are duped into believing they are calorie-, and therefore carbohydrate-free. This could have serious implications for diabetics who depend on these “free” foods as sweet additions to their diets. The concern with Splenda™ is not the use of an individual serving but its continued use over time because it truly is a sugar-containing additive. Its long term health effects are also completely unknown.

“Sugar free” foods are often no lower in calories and overall carbohydrate load than their sugary counterparts (just check the labels). What’s often overlooked is that many of them, especially baked goods, contain large amounts of refined flour, which contributes far more carbohydrate than do these sugar substitutes. Many also contain maltodextrin (a sugar) and various forms of starch--food starch, corn starch, modified corn starch--all refined carbohydrates capable of raising blood sugar. And as if this isn’t enough, approximately 70% of all the vegetable oils used in processed baked and fried foods are partially hydrogenated, which research has shown to raise blood glucose levels and cause weight gain.

But this may not even be the greatest concern. Recent research suggests, in what is known as a cephalic response, that the mere taste of sweetness—be it from real sugars or sugar substitutes—may be enough to elicit a rise in blood glucose and a corresponding rise in insulin. So it may not simply be a matter of removing the sugar.
Small amounts of sugar—unrefined sugar, molasses, honey—as part of a nutrient-rich diet that provides the elements for good health can be far more healthful than eating these highly refined low-carb products, which almost always contain a plethora of overly processed, non-nutritive foods, as well as chemical coloring and flavoring agents. Most egregious of all, too many of them contain ingredients that have been advertised as being “free foods”--ones that do not produce insulin reactions and that are, even, healthful. Nothing, unfortunately, could be further from the truth.

References
http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/weight_gain_myth.htm

http://aspartametruth.com/diabetes.html
 
http://www.mercola.com/sweet-deception-aspartame

http://www.diabetes.org/live/transcript.jsp?chatid=25

http://vm.cfsan.fda.gov/%7Elrd/fr980403.html

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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2008, 12:22:01 PM »
Fabulous response!  Thank you so much for that....I'm forwarding to friends right now!

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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 12:20:48 AM »
Hi Emma,
You can have a good alternative in sugar like Stivia, is natural suplement and it has no calories.



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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2008, 06:48:12 PM »
Emma
Google "sweet misery" the free movie on line
That should arm you as well as Jodi's fabulous piece.
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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2008, 04:08:21 PM »
Note that you can link to Jodi's piece on the articles page of the BC website:

Link to page:
http://www.baumancollege.org/articles/

Link to article:
http://www.baumancollege.org/articles/diabetes-and-sugar-substitutes.html
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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2008, 10:51:20 AM »
  :o Wow! I just started school this week and so some of the information is news to me! I shared in the class that I grew up as unhealthy as can be. And YES I am guilty of drinking Diet Coke. I learned that it had 0 points in Weight Watchers and like many others cared less that it was not very good for me and cared more about losing weight. Plus, I never bothered to read about what 'not so good' meant.
I think its only recently that I am more aware of what I am putting in my body. I wish I had started to do so sooner.
I am worried about my mother. She is Diabetic and eats splenda...She loves sweets! What alternative sweetners are available for Diabetics? I have heard that Agave Nectar is a good alternative for sugar but I am not sure if this applies to diabetics. Any thoughts on this? Any suggestions? BTW, neither of us like Stevia...
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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2008, 08:55:01 PM »

Dear Ladies,

I'm a new student at Bauman and I have a few questions about sweeteners that have a low impact on blood sugar levels.  Type 2 Diabetes runs on both sides of my family and I've been told that I need to watch my blood sugar.  I'm not a big sweet eater but I would like to have a few sweet choices.  What are my options?  I was under the impression that Splenda was pretty benign so that has been my sweetener of choice.  Any advice you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2008, 09:38:35 AM »
You are best served to steer away from artificial sweeteners.  Splenda is chlorinated.  It is a chemical.  It began as an insecticide experiment and ended up as a non-nutritive non-caloric sweetener.  Never in history has this chemical been used for human consumption.  There is also some mention that splenda will disrupt the gut flora.  Others have noticed symptoms of dizziness, heart palpitations and gastric distress. 
Agave is ok in very small amounts as it is a fructose.  It is processed in the liver so again, very small amounts are advisable.  2tbs. daily max is what Ed advises of fructose.  A product with enzymatic activity is always a better choice. 

Stevia is your best choice especailly for diabetics.  Stevia helps to lower blood sugar levels when consumed.   

For diabetics who have extreme cravings amino acid therapy with L-Glutamine might be a good choice.
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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 03:14:11 PM »
Patricia, if you're baking, you can also find recipes in the forum "Recipes" section that sweeten with fruits, such as dates. These may be sweet, but they contain lots of fiber and nutrients that will slow the rise in blood sugar and provide the co-factors necessary for their proper metabolism.

If you're not a big sweets eater, you may never have blood sugar problems, but I can offer you some insight/advice from my own experience. I've also never been a big sweets eater, but when I did eat them, they'd be either commercial products or nice desserts from restaurants and bakeries. The things we often think of as normal desserts.

I stopped cold turkey for awhile because I was noticing how addicted I would get to them, usually between Thanksgiving and Christmas, when my consumption would increase. After being off sugar for awhile I would every once in awhile have a taste of a "regular" dessert. Couldn't eat it. They were always too sweet, and now, many years later, that effect remains. The only sweets I can eat now are those I make myself. They're usually just fruit, or things that are very lightly sweetened. From this side of the sugar addiction arena, I am stunned at the intensity of sweetness, the density of sugars, that people consume unthinkingly. So I think the moral of this story is that there's the factor of frequency when we have desserts, but we also have to figure in how much of a 'hit' we're getting when we do indulge.


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Re: Diet Sodas.....
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2008, 05:20:04 PM »
A new study conducted by Duke University found that Splenda contributes to obesity, destroys “good” intestinal bacteria and prevents prescription drugs from being absorbed.

I'm not sure that this is the end of the story, I noticed that the study was funded by the Sugar Association. Hmmmm.

Regardless you can read a NY TIMES article on the study here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/business/23splenda.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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